![]() But if you do, it's an extremely valuable, probably essential, lift.He knows how to do the movement. It's not a big deal if you just want to get stronger, and you don't have any competitive athletic pursuits. None of that happens in the high pull UNLESS you treat it the same as you do the clean, which naturally won't happen if you don't know how to clean. It's an extremely athletic movement, it trains power development in the hips, strength to an extent, coordination, timing, balance. My take on them is that they're an assistance exercise used to improve the clean but if you aren't going to clean, then what's the point? If this coach actually said the clean was irrelevant to athletic performance, he probably doesn't know how to do the movement correctly himself. ![]() High pulls are certainly 'easier' than the clean, because there's really no way to fail the lift. Out of arrogance, most folks think they are athletes when in reality, they are not. Sportsmen = your personal mastery is indirectly challenged by your or somone elses level of personal mastery(weightlifting,most track and field events, competetive eating, bowling, skeet shooting,etc)Īthlete = your personal mastery is directly challenged by somone elses.(MMA,Boxing,Football,Soccer,Basketball,etc) Also, while many of those same programs have an olympic movement involved, the moment a high level guy/girl brings up a sore wrist, back, neck, whatever, the lift is dropped. I've been lucky enough to observe multiple training sessions for nearly all the college D-1 level and a number of pro level sports in the southeast.(I work in MS) Once you see guys moving around at such an elite level you realize that the idea of simply catching a bar correctly during the clean might make these guys a higher level athlete is so foolish and insane its not even worth mentioning. It is not necessary for any athlete at even the intermediate level. Only a basic sportsmen(weightlifter) or begining athlete will get any sort of training response during the catch of the bar on a clean. ![]() Athletes do specific skillwork and supplemental lifting to become better athletes. For an athlete, the entire point of doing the lift in the first place is to develop hip power not tighten up the beauty and safety of the catch and the overall movement. The catch is a technical formality, not a valid training component. The extension of the hip during the lift, to me at times, can help develop power. I will use high pulls as a power developer. If you are an athlete, you will invest greater training time improving on field movement skills and chosing lifting movements that are supplemental with high training economy. They can spend hours on the refining of the particular skills of the lift, athletes do not have that luxury. Weightlifters are sportsmen, not athletes. But, I do enjoy this discussion as it comes up every few months and I am convinced that Epley would be correct.Īs long as the extension is aggressive and that you dont duck down to the bar to reach acceptable bar height, you will do just fine. More than likely he knows something you dont, or that you chose to ignore. To insinuate that a 30 year strength coach veteran, hell, one of the guys who has made such a profound impact on how S&C is done today just simply doesn't know the lift is a pretty stupid statement. Since I have no desire to compete in Oly lifting, not sure what point there is in me racking the weight. I can pull significantly more than I can get under. Felt it in the hammies/glutes and it flat out destroyed the traps.įor me, the rack has always been the limiting factor for my Cleans. Felt fantastic (outside of hitting myself in the chin). I performed some yesterday in place of PCs on Madcow's. They simply performed high pulls (From a deadlift position, pull it, hip triple extension, pull the bar past nipple, which means bending the elbows and nearly hitting your chin).īasically, pull it the same heigh as a PC, just never turn it over. That actually racking the bar had no bearing on an athletes strength or performance, basically, it's show. Good talk, emphasized squatting, eating, not running ect ect.Ī key point he made was that the clean portion of the power clean was irrelevant to athletic performance (RE: Strength). He was the S&C for Nebraska from the 70s through the 90s. I listened to Boyd Epley give a talk a few weeks back.
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